RELATED: Red Dead Online Players Can Now Turn Into Rabbits. Bill watches over the boy, and slowly but surely begins to develop feelings. For more information, please see our and hammer / to set fire to the gunpowder to cauterize the wound. They lied to us, as Arthur has a very terrible aim. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. It goes to show that Dutch doesn't really care about his "family". From there, several gang members slowed themselves down and, instead of helping them, Dutch left them behind so that he could escape. This finishesBlessed are the Peacemakers mainmission in Red Dead Redemption 2.Nowthe next questA Short Walk in a Pretty Town starts. We get to see how both of them tried to apologize to Arthur after he recovered from the ambush, though it's oddly suspicious since both said about the same things as if both were rehearsing how to make an apology to Arthur . (Micah is a nonentity here: if he is working with the O'Driscolls, he backs off a step and covers Dutch, if he's not the sniper puts a bullet in his head to eliminate him as a variable/drive the point home to Dutch.) Interestingly, Aiden OMalley is also the name of one of Niko Bellics supporting players in Grand Theft Auto 4. Basically, without spoiling the end of the game for you, Dutch doesnt care about his peopleor anyoneas much as he pretends to. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Today, we'll dig up some little known facts about him. He will stop in front of the wooden box ahead of you, facing away. If you return to camp and just sit still for a while, Dutch will come up to you and explain what he thought happened. Dutch is pretty much defenseless: there's him, Micah and Arthur and Micah is a turncoat that sold Arthur out. This makes the end ofRed Dead Redemption II a little sadder, as the gang falls apart and people's opinion of Dutch shifts. But he wanted Sean rescued, and he knew that was going to be bloody. Both characters did not have a family and were committing crimes before being saved by Dutch. And he just dissmisses him and leaves Grimshaw whit him and goes about his buisness like this is something that happens every day? Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Its possible the sniper took a shot on Dutch and missed and they got away, I suppose. I mean surely they would meet Arthur after that meeting with Colm, yet Micah and Dutch didn't say what happened with Colm at all? dont feel that yet either. Would have gone completely differently imo.. We are going to go through the reasons why Dutch's betrayal still stings to this very day. Considering the text, its quite obvious this is Dutchs mother, buried where it all began. He first appears in Chapter 4 in Za'ha Woods with Lute when monsters begin roaming the land. the rest of chapter 6 will be nuts I suspect. Due to your injuries, your vision will be distorted and darkened, so be cautious as you move. submitted 1 year ago bySomepersonininternet Hosea Matthews, Can someone tell me why did Dutch do such a thing? Dutch. Your horse is tied up just to the east of your weapons cache. Move slightly to the west until you can see the guard with his back to the wooden structure ahead of you. They were just like nothing happened? Her partner . Colm and Dutch were two sides of the same coin. Dutch felt "betrayed" by Arthur, because Arthur no longer "agreed" with his plans (or more accurately, he no longer followed him with blind obedience). Granted, it actually does inspire others to donate, but theyre already more or less ingrained in a cult by that point. Red Dead Redemption 2 is a 2018 action-adventure game developed and published by Rockstar Games. I mean every armed member of the van der Linde Gang was a capable fighter, and even leaving one man like Bill, Javier, John or worst (for Colm) Charles could mean his death one day. Take him out with a stealth kill, then crouch again. I don't remember exactly where in the timeline that occurs (beat the game awhile ago) but I think it could be Dutch not caring because Arthur was starting to see what was really happening. Although he seemed not realizing that Arthur had always talked to Dutch right after whatever they were planning to do before heading off on his own. Also, Dutch misjudged Arthur's intentions all throughout the game because Dutch believed that Arthur would betray him as soon as they got the money (last train robbery). Ride out to the meeting with Dutch and Micah. Rotate the left stick until the icon goes white. And in Rdr1 John himself says He was the best man he ever knew. Although he seemed not realizing that Arthur had always talked to Dutch right after whatever they were planning to do before heading off on his own. It goes to show that Dutch doesnt really care about his family. One thing is that Dutch probably didnt know that Arthur was captured. Bishop Scott Jones speaks during an oral hearing before the United Methodist Judicial Council, the denomination's top court, on May 22, 2018, in Evanston, Illinois. His favorite video game series are 'Half-Life', 'Fallout' and 'Metro'. When you return people seem to already be concerned and feel that something was up, but it hadnt been so long that they knew there was foul play. "Isaac. Which was something that didn't sit well with Arthur as the game started. Because When John said he became more of what he was, he was corrected by Arthur who says i guess it's just Micah getting to his head. Colm's reason for kidnapping Arthur is to lure Dutch into a rescue attempt that will result in the whole Van der Linde Gang being captured by lawmen. Sadly, it is during one of these heists that Hosea is killed and the gang realizes Dutch is going mad. Theater of popular music. good for you tbh, hardest thing in the game is to get a chubby arthur. Arthur doesn't die; Dutch listens to his people not the rat; The rat dies; Depression; Anger; Language: English Stats: Published: 2022-12-17 Updated: 2023-02-28 . Would that have meant Micah wouldn't have been able to get the location of Dutch's stash? As mentioned by Dutch, he did not know she had died until an uncle told him. Dutch seems to agree with the author's view of the world. As soon as he has the sniper position, he has Dutch. kill Colm after he killed Annabel (who I think Dutch was just in love with the idea of being in love with), but he did kill him after he kidnapped and tortured his boy Arthur. Well before Red Dead Redemption 2 released to critical acclaim, Rockstar Games gave players hints about the importance of the camp in the game. Or is there something Im missing? He mentions his father, but seldom his mother. Interestingly, though, when you meet Evelyn Miller later in the game, he has a completely different personality to the outlaw. I like to think that at this point in the story Dutch still cared about Arthur a lot, so what happened? Press J to jump to the feed. This is most clearly seen in Favored Son, a mission which parallels And the Truth will Set You Free from the first game. Privacy Policy. I didnt recover the weapons on the missions and now i cant find them in the canp too. But I have to add that I find it amusing that Dutch didn't kill (or even try to?) Just make sure your targeting reticle turns red and youll hit him. When they became sick, or questioned him, they weren't useful anymore. Even more heartbreaking, Dutch walks away while Arthur is dying. It's such a small detail in the game one that many Red Dead Redemption 2 players likely never see. Please tell me Im missing something. Dutch is the real villain and he spans 2 games, pretty impressive bad guy. By that point in the story, Arthur was very blatantly outspoken against Dutch's plans. Dutch is quicker to call his gang a family than an actual gang. The go-to source for comic and superhero movie fans. He simply couldn't take down Colm at the first shot.#Shorts#Rdr2 When Arthur, Micah and Dutch meet Colm and Arthur gets captured When he gets home, Dutch was saying "What, what happened". He's got all these 'big complicated plans' in his head and he's just 'so smart'. That's why he was so sure of Dutch's response. Well, what made Micah think the Colm-Arthur abduction plan would have gotten that anyway? TheGamer is the leading source for video game news, reviews, topical features, and deep-dive interviews, delivered right through your eyeballs and into your brain box. One of Dutchs most endearing qualities is just how much he seems to care about education. Your email address will not be published. To this day, RDR players are sharing discoveries from their time looking at all of the characters in the camp, and how those relationships influence the events of the game. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Until you escape, you have to ensure that all of your kills are stealthy, and that youre not seen as you eliminate all the ODriscolls in the area for the gold medal requirements. Just like when John got caught and Dutch kept saying "it's not time" even though they were about to hang him. Fans still don't know if Red Dead Redemption 2 will ever get any future story content, but Red Dead Online is still going strong. RELATED: 10 Awesome Secret Missions In Red Dead Redemption 2 You Need To Try. Not only is Arthur potentially putting an envoy of Dutch's worse enemy back in the open, Kieran could have very easily ran back to Colm to rat out Horseshoe Overlook. Same as this one. It wasn't something they planned and agreed on, but it was something both men came to realize. Strangely (but perhaps not so strangely) Dutch doesnt teach his female followers how to read. At 2 o'clock, Hosea, Dutch and the now young-adult Arthur burst into the banking house of Lee and Hoyt. Dutch and Arthur follow one of them and, after overhearing their plan, Dutch sends Arthur to deal with a sniper up on the roofs while he returns to Sadie. Yeah, I could get behind this, and now I know I should read the journal more. Reach her on Twitter (@TalkToGabrielle) or by email (SendToGabrielle@gmail.com). A lot of players dont want to believe that Dutch was always a piece of shit, and that he only went crazy with the stressful events of the game, but as both Arthur and John recognize, He just started becoming more of who he really was., He may of said something but his reaction wasnt very big is probably what they mean Im a bit annoyed he didnt have an argument with Dutch over it. Arthur's brief kindness was bred from a stupidity he shouldn't possess. Would Dutch have given it up for Arthur? If Micah had been in on the capture of Arthur, how would he have convinced Colm to let him leave the parlay with Dutch? It'd been so long. While trapped on the island of Guarma, Dutch tells the authorities his name is Aiden O'Malley. Dutch started to break, becoming more reckless and killing innocent people. When the gang falls apart, Susan is killed by Micah. Why would Colm risk losing the main prize of Dutch for a sick old man and a bunch of random nobodies? There would have been nothing to stop him killing Micah. It's also possible that they just hadn't arranged a search party yet. At 2 o'clock, the trio burst into the banking house of Lee and Hoyt and held up the staff and customers. [1] The contest, organised by the European Broadcasting Union (EBU), is held annually between members of the Union, with participating broadcasters from different countries submitting songs to . He doesnt say it out loud to him, but the vibe changes. Micah reveals that the plan is to have Arthur cover them from above while Micah and Dutch go to the meeting. Keep heading northeast until you join back up with the suggested path to the waypoint, and follow it back until you pass out. Just on my second play through (on PC this time), Micah is horrible, but Dutch is the worst, I wanted to just shoot him, time and time again. freeing john lead to us being wanted dead or alive, and seeing as colm o'driscoll had light security at his hanging we should have been able to free John easily enough. Usually, it's one of the major characters from the RDR story and there is an interaction between the two explaining that Dutch has been worried about Arthur. Even Grimshaw and the other girls mention that she used to work just like them before Dutch decided to make her his significant other. Arthur mentions that Dutch shot a woman in Blackwater. We dont see what happens at the meet up after Arthur fades to black. His charisma and charm made him a father figure to much of the gang, especially John Marston and Arthur Morgan. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. How could he be so sure? Was Saturday 25 Six Nations RUGBY UNION BBCI, ITV1 & S4C The third week of the contest sees title favourites Ireland travel to Rome to face Italy (ITV1, k-o 2.15pm), before Wales welcome England to Cardiff's Principality Stadium (BBC1 & S4C, k-o 4.45pm). Regardless, I haven't heard what Colm said to Dutch's question at the meeting, so maybe that makes any of it makes sense. Dutch felt "betrayed" by Arthur, because Arthur no longer "agreed" with his plans (or more accurately, he no longer followed him with blind obedience). Mind you, this is not education in a privatized sense, but a communal education where everyone works together to better their intelligence. Red Dead Redemption 2 is available now for PC, PS4, Stadia, and Xbox One. Naturally, because of his increased screen-time, you learn a lot more about the charismatic gang leader. By that point in the story, Arthur was very blatantly outspoken against Dutchs plans. Morgan later witnessed his death and, despite a . Keep in mind it's really cold outside, and he doesn't look like he's dressed for the weather. Which in the story mean keeping conrolof his gang. If you talk to Sadie in the camp after the mission, Arthur said that it all happened way too quickly and he still can't process the fact that dutch left him to die. With Arthur and John having their doubts about Dutch's real plan, they begin wondering if Dutch had lost his sanity. As a result of the robbery the gang made off with $5000 in gold. When I first played through it and Arthur went back out afterwards and saw Dutch all I said out loud was you BASTARDDDD, Just tension for the plot, Dutch was starting to get off his rocker after the failed trolley station job and the whole Guarma debacle didnt help much with that. Tratado de fisiologia Medica (Arthur Clifton Guyton; John E. Hall, Arthur C. Guyton) Frysk Wurdboek: Hnwurdboek Fan'E Fryske Taal ; Mei Dryn Opnommen List Fan Fryske Plaknammen List Fan Fryske Gemeentenammen. That's why he left John too, he suspected that he was the rat, and with him in police custody, Dutch thought he could continue to observe and figure out if word of their plans kept getting out while John was behind bars. Hard too pass up! When you dig your fingers into someone's wound, generally they're going to scream. RELATED: The Best Open-World Games On Steam. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Choose your moment and press / to perform a Stealth Kill. Can someone tell me why did Dutch do such a thing? If it was obvious John wasn't the rat, then he'd send for him. we save the city" memes. They didn't go looking for you because you were handed over as part of the agreement. Then they haul Dutch back to the camp with the lawmen. Dutch mentions what happened after. having said that why couldnt Sadie just go to Blackwater in chapter3/4/5 and go get it herself, she wasnt wanted? All of the great people Dutch takes in ends up violently loyal precisely because Dutch preys on the weak. Micah is the one that prods Pearson into speaking up, suggests making amends with Colm for no apparent reason, specifically invites Arthur to accompany them, and even tells our boah which hill to snipe from. Arthur is knocked unconscious a few times until he finally has an opportunity to escape. Side note, while Colm is obviously presented as a sadist, Dutch isn't and I don't think he is. Doesnt say anything in Rhodes??? I doubt that as well. Why is this? Incidentally, be prepared for you aim to be off due to your injuries. A lot of Dutch's past is known to the player and the gang, but some parts of his past must be discovered by exploring and talking to other characters. From talking and listening to the women in camp, it can be gathered that Susan Grimshaw was not very popular among the gang. One element that Red Dead Redemption 2 players might not have picked up on is Dutch's genuine concern for Arthur Morgan anytime he ventures from camp for too long. Press J to jump to the feed. 1887-1995. (Thanks to user Yukino for the tip!). Either way, the fact that Rockstar designed to recognize that Arthur has been away for so long and to send an NPC after him is a nice little touch. You can even read the tombstones. RELATED: 10 Red Dead Redemption 2 Memes That Every Player Can Relate To. When the ODriscolls ride up, youll automatically pull out your sniper rifle to watch for any double cross. I like to think that everyone that died up until then would have chosen Arthurs side (Hosea, Lenny and Saun). At that point, I think Arthur knew Dutch had always been a manipulative psychopath piece of shit and he had been foolish enough to believe Dutch actually cared about him. Arthur Morgan. A Man of Many Words Arthur was only gone for afew hours so the gang was most likely getting ready to launch a massive assault when Arthur arrived back at camp. Rotate the left stick until the icon is white. That's why he let Dutch go. In a struggle with Milton, Arthur is losing until Abigail . I remember him first being hostile on the alligator mission and it just gets worse from there. I just finished this mission. One Shot. RELATED: The Best Poker Mini-Games In Gaming, Ranked. But you know, after getting himself out and his loyal horse getting him back to camp that plan pretty much died. It goes on to say that there is a gang of criminals believed to be under the outlaw of Dutch Van Der Linde, who escaped with approximately a hundred and fifty thousand dollars after a bloody gunfight with Pinkerton agents in Blackwater the day before. Dutch talks about the writer and his work on several occasions. You will automatically reach up and free your feet, dropping to the ground. Colm's passionate conviction that Dutch was going to get so angry that he'd attack with everything he has speaks to the fact that Colm witnessed these exact circumstances before, that he was there when the news of Arthur's kidnapping hit Dutch and he saw Dutch's fury and immediate action with his own eyes. and our Kill him with a throwing knife. If the O'Driscoll's killed Arthur in the process, great! RELATED: The Best Horses In Video Game History. Hidden Easter eggs, cut game-file content and much more! Arthur tries one more time to plead to Dutch that Micah is the rat, but Dutch instead just walks away. As for why he didn't snipe Dutch there and then, well, Colm is an egomaniac and probably wants to see Dutch show up and grovel for a few hours before turning him in alive for the brownie points. I don't think it's too weird. Did Micah even think Dutch would do that? I think he did care about them before. This was likely Dutchs attempt to create some distance between the gang and Pinkertons. An anarchist Warrior Poet with a love of the nature and the frontier, Dutch saw himself not as a criminal, but a man fighting back against a corrupt system to liberate the Old West. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. He didnt have any fight in him left. Both missions feature Dutch making a speech about his inability to fight nature. Where the former sees him using it as a boast, the latter shows a sincerity a genuine belief that he cannot live amongst the natural world any longer. Go around the wooden structure to the right, and move towards the guard on the path. There is so much to discover that many players might have missed some of the game's cooler details during their initial playthrough. Both of us -- They offered me a price, Dutch, to bring you in." Every family has some dysfunction, but Dutch's family had suddenly become insane. He showed Arthur how he reacts when he is desperate and pushed. And he had that as soon as he captured Arthur/the sniper position. These are the most striking hidden details about him. He wanted to humiliate Dutch and get his freedom by turning Dutch in to the law. From gaming trends to the latest blockbuster anime, DualShockers keeps you ahead of the curve. They terrorized the West until 1899 when a botched train robbery occurs, and several gang members leave Arthur and John to die. Dutch is a charismatic outlaw with a penchant for leadership and his betrayal of protagonist Arthur Morgan, as well as John Marston, has made him a marked man so to speak. 1874-1980. GTA 5 features a book titled Red Dead written by a certain J. I still think he had good intentions up to some point, maybe up until shit started to hit the fan in chapter 4 with Bronte and the Pinkertons and he just became colder? RELATED: Dutch's Best Quotes In Red Dead Redemption 2. Us, as Arthur has a very terrible aim so strangely ) doesnt. Just make sure your targeting reticle turns Red and youll hit him is white Arthur cover them from above Micah. Most striking hidden details about him gang a family and were committing crimes before being saved Dutch. Got all these 'big complicated plans ' in his head and he dissmisses... 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